Posted by: sean | January 29, 2010

Michael Totten: Muslim Arabs hate everybody

The Barney Fife of Middle Eastern “expertise” is at it again. With a couple of exceptions, I try to not write about Michael Totten, mostly because his ignorance makes my head hurt, and his childish worldview is depressing to me. Some things, however, cannot  be ignored.  Usually, Totten doesn’t allow himself to wander freely into undisguised racism — his “analysis” is generally of the patronizing paternalistic order, without being overtly bigoted. But this time he’s outdone himself.

In a discussion with Lee Smith, whose book was panned recently by Max Rodenbeck in The National, these two luminaries of all that is Arab and Muslim sit down and have a chat about “why they hate us.” The gist of their logic is summarized here by Totten:

On the subject of anti-Americanism, I think you nailed it, and it really isn’t that complicated. You wrote, “Anti-Americanism is the region’s lingua franca, and from Nasser to Nasrallah it has not changed in over fifty years. The United States is hated not because of what it does, or because of what it is. The United States is hated for what it is not, not Arab and not Muslim.”

Later, in the comments, Totten “unpacks” it for his more obtuse readers:

They hate everybody. We are part of “everybody.” They didn’t notice us or care before we showed up in the region, but we’re there now, we can’t leave any time soon, so we’re stuck with each other.

They also hate each other as much as, if not more than, they hate us. It doesn’t matter how nice Barack Obama is. He can’t change this. None of us can change this.

One thing that’s very strange about it, and makes it initially hard to discern from up close, is that almost all Arabs are extremely polite and hospitable in person. If you go there, you won’t feel the hatred unless you are spectacularly unlucky.

So there you have it. Anti-American sentiment is completely isolated from any American actions. Arab Muslims have a problem with Americans because they’re not Arab Muslims. It has nothing to do with US support for Israel, the invasion of Iraq or support for authoritarian despots in the region. Hell, it’s not even because  “they hate our freedom,” as Bush would have it. The reason why Arab Muslims are anti-American is because they’re anti-everybody. They hate everyone, including themselves, and if you haven’t noticed, it’s because Arabs are polite and won’t tell you to your face that they despise you for being, well, not them.

And since hostility to the US is completely irrational and ungrounded in any actual problems with American foreign policy, the logical conclusion is that nothing can be done to curb it. That being the  case, Lee Smith gives us his informed opinion about what US policy in the Middle East should look like:

So how do we carry ourselves in the Middle East? My advice comes from the book’s title: the strong horse not only punishes his enemies, he also rewards and protects his friends, sometimes by punishing their enemies.

The rest of the discussion is interesting for its total lack of understanding of al-Qaida, which Lee Smith insists is but an arm of Arab regimes’ foreign policy. His discussion of that point is a little muddled, because he can’t seem to decide whether its the long arm of Syria, Jordan, Egypt or Saudi Arabia.

So it’s really a nice, circular justification for US foreign policy. Do whatever you want, because at the end of the day, your actions have no bearing at all on how you are perceived in the world. So being that Arabs only respect force, you need to be the “strong horse,” and presumably that involves killing more Arabs (any ones will do, really). As Rodenbeck shows:

Thus, in his view, America could justifiably have attacked any number of Arab countries in retaliation for September 11 – when, he writes, “19 Arabs had struck the United States on behalf of Arab causes – Palestine, US sanctions on Iraq, US troops in Saudi Arabia, and so forth – supported by Arab rulers and the Arab masses alike.” The necessary response, Smith writes, was “a punitive war against the Arabs” – and Saddam Hussein simply “drew the short stick”.

This sort of rhetoric wouldn’t be so serious and could be chalked up to Totten’s American, aww-chucks approach to foreign policy if those unfamiliar with the region weren’t  likely to swallow it wholesale. But the fact of the matter is that this sort of talk is attractive to a lot of people in the US who don’t want to believe that US actions have anything to do with anti-American resentment. And the logical conclusion to this line of thinking is ugly and somewhat frightening, mirroring the situation in Gaza, as summed up by one of Totten’s loyal readers who writes in the comments:

If those in the Middle East want to kill each other, let them have at it. If they feel they have to bring their insanity here, it is time to introduce them to the concept of the vendetta. Nasser dealt with the Muslim Brotherhood by killing their families in toto; They need lessons of total retaliation, until they understand. I believe it is one aspect of the Third Rule.

Further, they need to be put in isolation until they learn to behave or, if not possible, they should be treated like rabid animals.

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Responses

  1. Sean,

    Bigotry is not complicated. It is remarkably simple.

    Question: Why does the white racist hate the black man?

    Answer: Because the black man isn’t white.

    Why is it you’re so quick to call me a bigot, but so slow to understand that Arab anti-Americanism is its own form of bigotry?

    We’re talking about murderous Al Qaedism here, not run-of-the-mill kvetching about the Bush and Obama administrations. You will recall that my discussion with Lee was framed by September 11.

    I don’t hate Arabs. I lived in Beirut, and it’s my favorite place in the world, so why on earth would I hate Arabs? Your accusation doesn’t deserve much more than an eyeroll.

    If I did hate Arabs, I could find plenty of Arab “policies” with which I could explain it. (9/11, Saddam’s genocide of the Kurds, Hezbollah firing missiles in my direction, Assad’s in-general asshole behavior, you get the idea.) And if I justified my hypothetical bigotry on those grounds, would you defend my hatred of people because, hey, it’s because of their policies?

  2. Michael,

    I continue to be amazed at what a clueless useful idiot you are.

    I hate to be the one to break this to you: You’re a worthless two-bit racist ignorant imbecile. The only reason you ever publish anything anywhere is that your banal racist idiocies work very well with the extremist criminals who want to make all of American foreign policy about killing Muslims and Arabs.

    While you’re jerking off over the garbage you think is profound analysis, you need to realize that the only reason it ever gets published is because it serves the purposes of the American equivalent of Al-Qaede: the racist, blood-thirsty warmongering scum who get off on the sight of Arab blood.

    Once Americans wake up to the scam of your neocon types, I hope they reward you justly for all your efforts towards bankrupting America in order to destroy the world.

  3. I would like to say that first, I believe that one of the major problems facing American Arab relations is the extreme and many times ignorant speech out there from both sides. The subject that Totten wrote about is really interesting and should be opened and discussed widely. Since America is in the Middle East, its bases are dotting the region and its troops intervene, support or lay siege to whole states here. I think that it is important to start talking about it. Maybe less bombing and more talking.
    I have a couple of takes on Totten:
    1- why don’t you invite another Arab with this guy and have a dialogue. Lets see what the ‘Arab’ has to say about hating America. No, you will tell the whole world what the Arabs think, because you are an ‘expert’, you and your NewYorker friend. But you do not know the Arab world really and if you know, what do you know about the historical accumulation leading to the present day. Your problem is that you do not want to listen really, you want to tell. (correct me if I am wrong)
    2- The idea that Arabs understand only force, or they just hate each other: The dysfunctional state system emerging after world war 1 is definitely causing instability in addition to a vacuum of power. I have no problem talking about that because I believe that the Arab world is passing in a crisis -an existential one-, but picturing the region in this dim light, as a bunch of halogens who just hate ‘the west’, fails to see the complicated picture of the Middle East which is otherwise, a really misunderstood region. I am sorry: religious, yes, but how are they more religious than the American south? Violent? where? 4 oclock in the morning in Cairo or Beirut or Damasucs (sorry for that incident sean)
    3- Where does this hate to the Arabs come from? What did they really ask for? They asked for Palestinian right, right to self determination and sovereignty. What did they really ask for other than controlling their lives? At least this is how we see it.
    4- Does this mean that the Arabs are victims: I think they are, especially the random Ahmeds running around who most probably as Ahlam Mostaghanmi said are just looking for a fridge and a house! At the same time, they are not, we have failed miserably for the past 50 years, and we bare the responsibility for that failure. The failure of Arab regimes and the consequent loss of economic benefits, increased poverty and reduction of the quality of life should develop frustration, and it should be directed towards the Arab regimes and towards a cultural movement that changes the situation.
    5- As for Americans: I am sorry, but a critical assessment of American engagement in the region has not been made yet. America like the Arabs is also in denial, and people like Totten fuel this thuggish ignorant mentality up there.
    Totten: I don’t know if you understand how offensive you look to us, as you sit on your Beiruti balcony speaking this shit… anyway…Ahlan wa Sahlan you are still a guest. But I would like to challenge you to open your blog to a dialogue between arab and American intellectuals. Will you?
    Sean, great post as usual. Your intellectual honesty is one of your best qualities, and I propose that maybe you should start a debate on your blog about this subject. You are the best moderator for that.
    Peace

    Nizar

  4. Michael:

    Your simplistic view of things is the whole problem here. Racism and bigotry are actually complex phenomena that involve history and politics and economics and a whole other slew of variables. Why, for example, might the white guy in your example hate blacks but not have a problem with Chinese people, for example? Both are non-white, so if it were merely a question of the hatred of non-whites, then the white racist would also hate the Chinese person. We know that that’s just not the case, mostly because bigotry is much more complex than just disliking someone because his skin is a different color than yours.

    In the case of anti-Americansim in the Middle East, it’s pretty clear that it’s not based on the childish idea of hating people because they’re not Muslims or Arabs. Why, for example, do people here not have anti-Swedish or anti-German feelings? the last time I checked, Germans and Swedes were neither Arab nor Muslim. A large part of it is because neither of those countries have foreign policies that are perceived as being anti-Arab. But it is apparently incomprehensible to you that someone might hate America (or at least the idea of America that he has) because of something that America has done.

    Bigotry and racism in the Middle East is a big problem, and I could talk a long time about the negative attitudes toward Philippinos or Ethiopians or Sri Lankans in Lebanon, which are widespread and pernicious. Likewise, there is a lot to be said about skin color in the region, and the attitude that many people have about, say, the Sudanese.

    To conflate this, though, with anti-Americanism is a category error — one that taken to its logical conclusion for US foreign policy can be disastrous, as seen in the comments in your post. This is also undercut by the fact that most Arabs and Muslims I’ve met from Egypt to Uzbekistan make a distinction between Americans as people and American foreign policy.

    All of this is apparently nuance that is completely lost on you. And so while I have no doubt that you don’t hate Arabs, you do have no problem holding simplistic and frankly prejudiced attitudes towards a people you clearly know very little about. This might have something to do that your entire understanding of the region is “framed by September 11,” as you put it.

  5. Sean, you and I are talking past each other. Maybe it’s as much my fault as yours.

    Let me try to be clearer.

    You asked me, “Why, for example, do people here not have anti-Swedish or anti-German feelings?”

    I’m not talking about your neighbors in Hamra at the Starbucks, or Arabs who are at times justifiably pissed off about American policies. I’m talking about the likes of Abu Musab al Zarqawi who will cut off the head of a Shia as fast as he would cut off yours.

    And he doesn’t like Germans or Swedes.

    When Americans asked “why do they hate us?” after 9/11, they were wondering about the perpetrators of the attacks, not the liberal intellectuals in your neighborhood coffeeshop.

  6. Arabs hate Americans?

    Dratt 3al Balat (farts on concrete)

    Wallah, if you offer them a green card they’ll all end up in Detroit alongside the existing Arab-American community, which is, by the way, relatively docile.

    What the Arabs hate is US policy in the Missile East. If the US were to meddle less and maintain a more neutral stance towards The Conflict, much of the resentment would evaporate into thin air.

    As for Al-Qaeda and Zarqawi, if their actions were representative of a significant percentage of Arabs, the US would be in much bigger trouble than it is today.

    Yesterday it was the USSR, now it’s the Arabs, tomorrow the Americans will be pre-occupied with the Yellow Menace and we’ll sink into irrelevance for another 1000 years or until someone discovers we’re sitting on something they need.

  7. Dear Michael,

    the simplicity of your thought and writing is striking. Racism is not about skin color, it’s about politics and economics. Skin color is only a marker on which economic and political inequality is inscribed in. At the root of every racist comment is a political struggle for power and domination. To exploit, enslave or even kill a brother or equal, legitimately is far more difficult than somebody whose equality or humanity you’ve already deducted.
    The man in power might understand this equation while his followers can only see its manifestation, skin-colour.
    Your blindness for the greater picture, and depth of human action, coupled with your zeal for the cause is precisely what makes you a bigot, and a particularly unintelligent and facile one for that. I wish you’ll get your book published, if only to reveal you idiocy to the world.

    Regards,

    Siad

  8. Ya Nizo: Ahlah w sahlan ya habibi, I’m always glad when this blog gives a pretext to have aktar dratt 3al blatt!

    Michael: You’re talking past yourself, I’m afraid. If you’d like to backpedal on your statement, that’s one thing, but to pretend that it’s not what it clearly is, now that’s just disingenuous. Here’s what you wrote:

    MJT: On the subject of anti-Americanism, I think you nailed it, and it really isn’t that complicated. You wrote, “Anti-Americanism is the region’s lingua franca, and from Nasser to Nasrallah it has not changed in over fifty years. The United States is hated not because of what it does, or because of what it is. The United States is hated for what it is not, not Arab and not Muslim.”

    Now Nasser clearly predates al-Qaida and September 11, and Nasrallah and Hezbollah are enemies of that organization. When something is a “region’s lingua franca,” you’re obviously not talking about a fringe radical group, unless, of course, you don’t understand what lingua franca means. So Smith’s quote here has made it clear that he’s talking about a wide geographical region, a relatively large time period (over 50 years), and a wide cross-section of the population. You think that Lee Smith “nailed it.”

    That’s what you wrote, Michael, so own it.

  9. Wow. I never thought I’d so thoroughly enjoy hearing White Man Lee lecture anyone. About anything. Until today.

    Totten –almost uniquely– manages to embody and capitalize on every unfortunate attribute and development that has defined America’s shortcomings over the past 8 or 9 years: America’s celebration of mediocrity (Palin, Totten); the rise of a new class of self-declared experts; the pleasure of sweeping bigoted generalizations; Friedman-esque mixed metaphors; capitalizing on your country’s invasions to jumpstart a war reporter career; shameless opportunism; traveling abroad and pretending its really dangerous (menacing Hezbollah toddlers in downtown Beirut! Help! Bomb them!) thereby exploiting your audience’s ignorance of the rest of the world; visiting other countries with preconceived notions and leaving those entirely unchallenged; getting paid to regurgitate exactly what your bigoted audience wants to hear.

  10. By the way, HottenTotten– you’ve done a truly miserable job of countering the claims made against you here. And your whole “racism is simple” anecdote just lends additional weight to the impression that you are– on top of a bigot– also simply not very bright. The fact that you’ve managed to make a career of anything, least of all your musings on world events, is more evidence than I needed that the current quality of American journalism, when it comes to the Middle East, is a sure sign of the empire’s intellectual decline.

  11. For how many years has Michael Totten been making the ridiculous claim that he’s too busy and financially impoverished to learn Arabic? Some of that Saatchi & Saatchi — oops, Quantum, sorry — money couldn’t be put toward giving this guy some lessons? Is the Middle East the only region of the world regarding which one can be an “expert” without speaking any of its languages?

    I don’t hate Arabs. I lived in Beirut, and it’s my favorite place in the world, so why on earth would I hate Arabs?

    Hey, some of my best friends are black! And I can’t be a misogynist because my mother’s a woman!

  12. On the subject of anti-Americanism, I think you nailed it, and it really isn’t that complicated. You wrote, “Anti-Americanism is the region’s lingua franca, and from Nasser to Nasrallah it has not changed in over fifty years. The United States is hated not because of what it does, or because of what it is. The United States is hated for what it is not, not Arab and not Muslim.

    I might laugh if I thought Totten was joking with this quote, but I somehow doubt it. Does he really believe that anti-Americanism in the Middle East generally speaking is merely a manifestation of violent xenophobia that is inherent to Arabs? That strikes me as perhaps one of the most simplistic, infantile assertions I’ve read concerning “why they hate us.” Hell, I’d venture to say that’s even worse than Bush’s “they hate us for our freedom” BS.

    And since I see Totten is in the comments section, if I may ask, how do you and Smith back up this overly broad, light on facts assertion? Do you have any honest research outside of vapid hearsay and the standard, “Well I lived in one place in the Middle East for a while” crap that can back up your belief that Arabs hate the US merely because, well… it is the US?

    Why is it you’re so quick to call me a bigot, but so slow to understand that Arab anti-Americanism is its own form of bigotry?

    How is Arab anti-Americanism another form of bigotry akin to racism when you can’t even establish a credible thesis that shows anti-Americanism in the Middle East is merely prevalent because we’re American? This makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever and seems to me to paint all those who might be anti-American, regardless of the reasoning behind it, with the same brush. To you, it would seem, they’re all “Bin Ladens.” Ugh.

    I’m talking about the likes of Abu Musab al Zarqawi who will cut off the head of a Shia as fast as he would cut off yours.

    This might make sense were it not for the fact that the quote in which you said Smith nailed it very much, explicitly (with his use of “lingua franca”), makes it seem as though he was referring to a large swath of Arabs in the Middle East and not just some fringe group like Al Qaida. And as a matter of fact, throughout his book, Smith makes several sweeping, generalized claims about the Middle East much like the one you endorsed, so I find it a little beyond belief that you’re only alluding to a fringe group of sorts… unless of course you’re willing to go on record as saying Smith’ primary thesis is flat out wrong.

    HT: Is the Middle East the only region of the world regarding which one can be an “expert” without speaking any of its languages?

    Does he honestly not speak the language? Ouch.

  13. Good grief, you guys.

    Look, Zarqawi is just the most extreme example, but you’ll have a hard time convincing me the likes of Nasser and, especially, Nasrallah aren’t bigots.

    A person who is anti-American is practically a bigot by definition, just as a person who is anti-Lebanese, anti-Arab, anti-Shia, or anti-French is practically a bigot by defintion.

    I would not call someone an anti-American just because they take issue with or even hate American policy. That is not what anti-Americanism is. I disagree with and even hate various American policies from both the Bush and Obama adminstrations, yet I am not anti-American.

  14. You all know Nasser drove thousands of non-Arab people out of Egypt, right?

    What would you say about George W. Bush if he drove thousands of Arabs out of America? “Bigot” would be the least of it. I’d be tempted to call him a fascist.

  15. You all know Nasser drove thousands of non-Arab people out of Egypt, right?

    Whoa, Nasser drove Elie Khoury’s family out of Egypt?

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  17. “The United States is hated not because of what it does, or because of what it is. The United States is hated for what it is not, not Arab and not Muslim.”

    This is such drivel, its hard to justify giving it any attention. This is dumber than Bush’s culture war crap.
    If I have traveled anywhere in the world were people were generous enough to give me the benefit of the doubt by distinguishing between my passport and my government’s actions, it was in the Arab world. Really, I’ve been humbled by this generosity of spirit– one that I can’t even say I would extend to people from a country that has wreaked havoc like the US has in the region, and which re-elected a president who did what Bush did.
    The fact that Americans don’t extend the same distinction to Arabs (who are conflated with the few members of Al Qaeda who perpetrated 9/11, broadly, despite the fact that most Arabs have little power to affect even their governments’ policies– compared to Americans at least) is a sure sign of ignorance and bigotry, one that you are also guilty of. To hold these opinions in private is one thing; to indoctrinate an ignorant audience with them is hate-mongering.
    You have still not shown how the statements of 3 politicians amounts to a “lingua franca” for all Arabs, nor have you proven your bogus thesis that the Arab world hates Americans for what they are not (Did that sound clever to you when you formulated it? Did you think, “Jeez, Totten, a stroke of genius!”) The fact that you are conflating Nasser, Nasrallah and Zarqawi’s approach to America here is equally ridiculous. This is worse than “they hate us for our freedom.” No, clearly– if anything– “they,” broadly speaking, dislike us for our hypocrisy (and the resulting destabilization, invasions, murderous sanctions– all under the banner of ‘freedom’).
    If one would judge America by Michael Totten, one could hate America for tolerating intellectual charlatanism and hate-mongering.

  18. Michael,

    I don’t disagree with your characterization of Zarqawi at all. But that’s not the point. The point is, you co-signed a sentiment from Smiths book that is clearly a gross generalization of Arabs in general. His book is littered with such statements. And in your original endorsement of that sentiment, nine of the current nuance you’re now trying to inject into your original statement was there (And indeed, your clarification in your own comments section didn’t specifically allude to fringe groups or certain people, but Arabs).

  19. Sean, I came here via Angry Arab, and I have to say I am a little insulted you compared my beloved Barney Fife with Michael. He at least never hurt a fly, as bumbling as he was. Michael’s views, on the other hand, are hateful and have deadly consequences, as they give impetus and succor to our worst policies in the region, and our stereotypes and prejudices about Arabs. Barney’s gun only went off in his own holster.:)

  20. http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=20786

    Dear Michael,

    I notice that you have not bothered to respond to any of the probing criticism aimed at you, especially with regard to your use of ‘lingua franca.’

    Maybe you are too busy ordering pizzas for your friends in the IDF? (see link above)

  21. As long as the USA’s foreign policy is made in Tel Aviv and not DC, America will be seen as a Zionist puppet, armed to the teeth and waging wars for Apartheid Israel.

    Zionists like Totten love to write about how Israel is a ‘peace’ loving nation.

    Yes, Israel is such a ‘peace’ loving state.

    That’s why the IDF is on the border of Lebanon right now, making war like noises and AGAIN threatening to invade.

    The only ‘peace’ Israel wants is:

    A ‘piece’ of Syria; a ‘piece’ of Jordan; a ‘piece’ of Iraq; a ‘piece’ of Saudi Arabia; a ‘piece’ of Turkey; a ‘piece’ of Egypt; a ‘piece’ of Lebanon and whatever ‘pieces’ are left of Palestine after Apartheid Israel finishes its campaign of ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians.

  22. It’s hard to believe that someone who equates Arabs to Sand People (Star Wars) and Fremen (Dune) actually lived among them.

  23. http://arabism-islamism.webs.com/index.htm

    The twin fascisms that causes most massacres, wars, “conflicts” today:

    Arabism is racism (Arab racism)
    Millions upon Millions are/became victims of [pan-] Arabism which is the worst current form of racism in its gigantic proportions, like: Kurds Jews (not just in Israel) Berbers (the real natives of North Africa), Africans (not just in the genocide in the Sudan or in Egypt on native Nubians by Arab invaders – till today), Persians, etc.

    Islamism is bigotry (Islamofascism)!
    The Islamic supremacy that “works” towards its vision of “final Islamic domination on the entire planet”, from Middle east to Africa from Asia to Eurabia, from forced conversions, terrorism, & massacres in multiple countries (like: Thailand, Phillipines, China, Indonesia, Tunisia, Morocco, Kenya, Tanzania, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon India, USA, France, Israel, Russia, UK, etc.) to propaganda, the war includes on Muslims who are not radical enough…,

    Let’s face it! that entire war on Israel & the Jews since the 1920’s by infamous facsist Mufti Haj Amin Al-Husseini who started the “genocide campaign” [and continues by the children, grand children of Arab immigrants into Israel - Palestine - now convenienently called "palestinians"] in a clear outlined declaration to ‘kill all Jews’, is nothing but out of pure Arab Muslim bigotry.

    Why does biased media blame Israel defenders from vicious Arab Muslims who use civilians when they attack Israeli civilians… so that their civilians (they prefer kids to) die then parade with the casualties as “innocent victims”???

    BTW
    While the Islamo Arab dictatorship (& real Apartheid upon the non-Arabs, non-Muslims) goes on…
    Israeli [ungrateful] Arabs won’t mention FAVORITISM by democratic pluralistic multi-racial Israel in: land, courts & universities, by the same token, the totalitarian & mullahcracy dictators of Iran with its Hezbollah thugs & militant “Palestine” anti-freedom forces cast their genocide plan under “freedom fighting.”

  24. You are a hateful jerk.

  25. This doesn’t surprise me. Totten fancies himself an analyst and a journalist, but this is what passes for analysis.

    He is an embarrassment to the journalistic profession. Also note that other than having a camera, a blog, and willingness to travel, he has no professional journalism training. He is an English major from a 3rd tier state university.

  26. Sean, at least you allowed Totten the chance to reply here. I responded twice to Totten’s gibberish on his website and both times he rejected them. Only he can approve comments.

    Totten is not a journalist, he’s just another neo-con hack trying to gain some credibility for his bile.

    One guy on another blog claims Totten called himself a ‘Western Supremacist’ in a private exchange.

    Are you there, Totten? How is your ‘mushroom cloud’ propaganda going. Do you get frustrated because American bombs are not dropping on Iran yet?

  27. In all of these comments I see nothing at all about that slippery Islamic concept of Taqiyya. Those reading here will get an excellent overview at: “http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war”

    After reading this I hope that folks will see that we’re in a new war that requires us (Americans) to study this Orwellian-think which is Islamic jihad. It’s not going to go away, and we ignore this “taqilla” at our peril.

  28. …sorry, correct that last spelling to read…”taqiyya”….

  29. Charles Griffith: ‘After reading this I hope that folks will see that we’re in a new war that requires us (Americans) to study this Orwellian-think which is Islamic jihad.’

    Stick your dumb paranoid guff somewhere. And how long did it take to make up the name Charles Griffith?

  30. Well, I don’t know if the Arabs hate EVERYONE but they sure do hate a long list of people – Kurds, Shiites, Jews, Americans, Iranians, Westerners, their religious minorities, the other tribe etc …

    The biggest killers of Arabs are other Arabs. The middle-east doesn’t lack for terrorist talent. If they spent half as much time terrorizing their own governments as they do the Israelis, those dictatorships would have been overthrown a long time ago …

  31. @I Blame the Parents

    Why stop with the Arabs. Clearly Americans hate everyone and I mean everyone:

    -Mexicans
    -Chileans
    -Panamanians
    -Cubans
    …let’s just say all latinos to make it easier.
    -North Koreans
    -Iraqi, Pales-wait, let’s just say “Arabs”
    -Somalians
    -Shiites
    -Sunnis
    -Catholics
    -Easterners
    -Non-Evangelicals

  32. Calling him a racist is just a dumb scam for attention. We all know he is not, but what is the reason that you want him to be hated by your readers? That fact could be racism in some form. Just hate. This is just stupid that you people even give a damn about any of this. War? Who cares? We all die. Racist or not. Religious or not. Best we can do is talk a bunch of shit to each other before we die right?

  33. Dear MY BROTHER IN HUMANITY . MiCHEL
    well ,if any one wants to speak about any topic .character , event or ideology just collecting correct data about this thing
    so I want to give you and every one hate Islam ,muslims and the prophet muhammad (pBUH) some correct data about this religion (ISLAM)

    Islam is the religion of peace ,Yes Peace
    Islam is the religion of love ,yes love
    The prophet muhammad taught us to be just and kind and to feed the poor and hungry ,help the other what ever his faith ,race .
    He is the best character i have ever seen in my life .
    his light was brighter than the sun ,his beauty equaled by none , truthful in every word he says .As a muslim girl likes the mankind and wants justice in my world .
    we are all brother and sister in humanity ,as a muslim girl i “m proud of my religion ,I”m proud of my culture I”m proud of my messenger
    but I”m not proud of all the terrorist works in the name of my religion
    every day I see the same headlines .crimes committed in the name of ISLAM
    people committed atrocities in his name the murder and kidnap with no shame ,
    but ISLAM don”t order us of that , why as “M i innocent citizen call me a terrorist ?

  34. Muslims dont hate no body, hate in islam is a sin, also hate is an unacceptable behavior in islam.
    so read about islam before you say an invaluable things about it.

    “Read” is the first word in Quran too.

  35. France, Bordeaux, nous sommes en 2013, le 30 mai, et ce matin en allant faire des courses l’ une de ces créatures immondes m’ interpelle depuis sa voiture garée, pour me demander (en me tutoyant) de lui prêter ma carte bleue….
    Je le fixe en continuant d’ avancer et il me jette une insulte ainsi qu’ un “p’rquoi tu m’ r’garde cômme ça?!” Une flopée de réponses à cette question, énoncée dans un français souillé, me viennent en tête, mais je préfère frapper là où ça fait vraiment mal.
    Après mes achats, je repasse quelques minutes plus tard et m’approche de sa voiture, m’arrête à son niveau, ignore le flux d’immondice qui continue de lui sortir de l’orifice qui lui sert de bouche et lui demande, en sachant déjà la réponse : ” Vous êtes arabe non?” qlqs millisecondes s’écoulent avant qu’il ne réponde (accrochez-vous bien) ” non chuis pas arabe” je lui répond un sourire aux lèvres ” si si, vous êtes arabe…ça se voit ” et continue mon chemin dans le silence qui a suivi cette double épiphanie qu’est la sienne. Non seulement il a pris conscience de son origine et l’écart (vocabulaire, stratégique, diplomatique, comportemental…) qui subsistera toujours entre son peuple et le reste du monde. Mais en plus, en répondant par la négative, il se confirme qu’il a honte de ce qu’il est. J’ ai doublement apprécié, mon p’tit déjeuner une fois rentré chez moi ahaha.Au faite, je suis une femme, 29 ans, Franco-Japonaise et suis athée.
    By the way iam a women half french half japanese, 29 years old and atheist.
    To answer the question, back then thousands centuries ago, arabs where always on war trying and succeding, half the time, to create and settle there own civilisation. Wich is “fine” since all civilisation where using the same strategie. But then, they “created” there god ( based on what already exist )and keep on insisting/pestering the rest of humanity. So instead of staying in their countries and using their wealth to enhanced its infrastructures ect… they pour all of ther funds, time, energy in conquest campaign.
    They felt and still feel envious about the modernity of other countries that they could achieve in the first place, if they werent so obscenly greedy. Hence, that way of thinking that still persisting at this present time (cf my little anecdote in the begining of my post). We could also talk about the fact that they view women as “lesser creatures” that must be subdued by all means. For the record,more than half of the world is populated by women, so its like having half of the world as ennemies officialy or …unofficially….
    They feel no shame about polygamy (those Men Slut are walking STD seriously…)rap, incest,pedophilia, (Mohamed first wife after is revelation, was an 6 years old Aisha …he was an around 45 years old geezer), mutilation since, according to qur’an, those acts are allowed and encourage by that god and prophet.
    Remember, i am atheist, but i took the time to read that book (and those of other religions too actually) so i based my opinion and final decision regarding your civilisation on what your people had wrote long time ago and keep on updating. I don’t know you, so i don’t know if you practice islam by the book, but if you dont, your indeed not a true muslim.
    What makes you hesitate to do as told, might be your conscience wich mean that you’r going against your deity. Now, dont that simple act of rebelious against what you might view as insanity, makes you your own god?
    I still feel pain for the arabic women, first victims of that trashing ( never heard about Persian women warrior?) who are reduce to sexual toys and reproducing vessel. No matter how muslim/ arabic men generation passed and how hard they try to convice that it is normal in their culture, muslim/arabic women, even after thousand of generation went by, still feel inherently disgust of being sexually used wich explain the huge suicide rate among them.
    Arabic civilisation had it tough back then and its not gonna change. Being half japanese i understand in a way, that rejection of america way of thinking/acting. Specially since the 2011 tsunami that most of the world think as an natural disaster (never heard about H.A.A.R.P and HONDA’s hydrogen fuel cell technologies?) but where chinese, japanese and such use their brains to surpass America and occidental civisation in general, arabic one just go fist full at anything that moves like an middle school brat full of snort.Well good luck with that.
    As for me, i long ago stop according the benefit of the doubt to that civilisation.


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